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  • Data Acquisition - What's New or On The Horizon?

    I'm shopping for an affordable GPS-based data acquisition for my next race car. Before I spend the coin on an Aim Solo DL, I'd like to know what's available that competes with that in terms of price and features. Also, what's the word on newer systems becoming available within a year or so?

    I ask as the Aim Solo seems to have become the standard in good, affordable data acquisition but it's also getting a bit long in the tooth (around 6 years now?). There must be something new coming either from Aim or another company.

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    I have no clue but do know one DL failing. The last I checked the DL would give full function with cars that had "CAN obd2" protocol after 2008. And even with CAN obd2 some cars would not provide full DL access for data. So whatever you car is check with AIM to find out what you can pull from the car. We had issues with this where the obd2 corvette C5 would give no data on DL and the C6 vetee would not either, and the later C6 vettes (with 2008 protocol OBD) would integrate with limited functionality.

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    • #3
      In general for AiM products the OBDII mapping (and the sometimes connection at the OBD port) should be avoided if there is an alternative ECU map. The OBDII Connection is there to provide primarily emissions related information so many times vehicle manufacturers limit the information on that connection to what is required to meet the emissions requirements. Hence the limited number of channels defined by the ‘generic’ OBDII map. Later ecus are much better in this regard. Connection to a different CAN bus (see appropriate AIM doc) and using a vehicle specific ecu mapping will typically provide far more information. Much of the time the vehicle specific ecu map cannot be used with the OBDII port connection and will require tapping the CAN bus elsewhere else in the vehicle harness. Lastly, a lot of ecus (C5 vette, NB Miata) are limited in speed and information available on the CAN bus forcing the use of external sensors for acquisition purposes.


      Solos use a rechargeable battery for power usually though there is a hardwire connection option. As always there are only so many charge cycles available before the battery fails. AiM will replace the battery if you send it in. The only other failure I have seen with the Solo is a failure to acquire satellites due to a GPS issue. AIM repaired that also.
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      • #4
        I think Autosport Labs is doing some interesting things with their RaceCapture. They have an emphasis on telemetry broadcast but it is not required. New features being advertised all the time and it seems like an easier user interface from what I have seen. Reminds me of more of a megasquirt equivalent for data acquisition.

        https://www.autosportlabs.com/produc...apturepro-mk3/
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        • #5
          Originally posted by markn View Post
          In general for AiM products the OBDII mapping (and the sometimes connection at the OBD port) should be avoided if there is an alternative ECU map. The OBDII Connection is there to provide primarily emissions related information so many times vehicle manufacturers limit the information on that connection to what is required to meet the emissions requirements. Hence the limited number of channels defined by the ‘generic’ OBDII map. Later ecus are much better in this regard. Connection to a different CAN bus (see appropriate AIM doc) and using a vehicle specific ecu mapping will typically provide far more information. Much of the time the vehicle specific ecu map cannot be used with the OBDII port connection and will require tapping the CAN bus elsewhere else in the vehicle harness. Lastly, a lot of ecus (C5 vette, NB Miata) are limited in speed and information available on the CAN bus forcing the use of external sensors for acquisition purposes.


          Solos use a rechargeable battery for power usually though there is a hardwire connection option. As always there are only so many charge cycles available before the battery fails. AiM will replace the battery if you send it in. The only other failure I have seen with the Solo is a failure to acquire satellites due to a GPS issue. AIM repaired that also.
          Mark, I heard a rumor of an Aim Solo2 coming on the market some time soon. Has Aim told you anything about this?

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          • #6
            it is pretty sad that G2X, AIM Solo (and few other AIM models) and Traqmate all came out ~8 years ago. time when iPhone 3 was released.

            I've used all 3. G2X and AIM software sucks big time, someone must of came up with it in the last century. Traqmate software was great, but their hardware was definitely designed in the 80s. Traqmate company was also poorly run, my bet is owner probably a software guy that has no concept of hardware.

            you really don't learn much with AIM software, it is a complete joke compare to Traqmate (went out of business). I also bet AIM owner is a hardware guy, that had zero concept of what racers want.

            yeap, I am whining. This industry is so far archaic, I always wondered how they are still in business.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by bellwilliam View Post
              it is pretty sad that G2X, AIM Solo (and few other models) and Traqmate all came out ~8 years ago. time when iPhone 3 was released.

              I've used all 3. G2X and AIM software sucks big time, someone must of came up with it in the last century. Traqmate software was great, but their hardware was definitely designed in the 80s. Traqmate company was also poorly run, my bet is owner probably a software guy that never has no concept of hardware.

              you really don't learn much with AIM software, it is a complete joke compare to Traqmate (went out of business). I also bet AIM owner is a hardware guy, that had zero concept of what racers want.

              yeap, I am whining. This industry is so far archaic, I always wondered how they are still in business.
              I completely agree. I loved my IQ3 data/dash but the Racepak software was only useable by engineers. I spent a decent amount of time watching Racepak how-to videos from their site and still never seemed to grasp it beyond the setup phase. My dash really became an expensive predictive lap timing dash.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by b3d3g1 View Post
                I think Autosport Labs is doing some interesting things with their RaceCapture. They have an emphasis on telemetry broadcast but it is not required. New features being advertised all the time and it seems like an easier user interface from what I have seen. Reminds me of more of a megasquirt equivalent for data acquisition.

                https://www.autosportlabs.com/produc...apturepro-mk3/
                My friend has a RaceCapture, looks great on paper but he's had nothing but problems with it. Our Start/finish is about 15ft away from another section of track and its forever clocking him crossing S/F when he's on the other part of the track.
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                • #9
                  Instock Solo 2 - Solo 2 DL still coming

                  Here this the latest on the AIM Solo-2 which is in stock

                  Im a fan of it and have used it a few times on 1-3hr stints. Helps to keeps me focused. Easy read display and for the money IMHO its not bad.

                  Like the new Wi-Fi connection to lap top and track mapping ability

                  https://www.sampsonracing.com/AIM-Solo-2-p/solo-2.htm

                  AiM Sports Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL

                  Smarter, smaller, and more powerful than ever: the brand new AiM Sports Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL are the game-changers we've been waiting for!
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                  Not simply lap-timers, the Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL are the most precise trackers on the market: receiving data from GPS and GLONASS, two satellite constellations, our device provides lap-times with a maximum 2/100 tolerance.
                  Use the AiM Solo 2 DL to overlay your data onto your recorded track video from your SmartyCAM HD. (DL stands for Data Logging) More Info Below
                  Because of AiM's dedication to its drivers and riders, they have fit 10 configurable RGB LEDs ready to inform you, sector to sector, if you are improving, or not, in real time.


                  AiM Solo 2 Colors
                  Not enough!? Of course not! You should know that the AiM Sports Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL also have huge internal track databases with over 3000 circuits: when you power ON your Solo device, it automatically selects the right one, without any need for you to set it up. But even if the track you want to get out on is not in the database yet, Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL will switch to autolearning mode, understanding the characteristics of the track and providing you with the lap times anyway.
                  Tracks, fields, hill-climbs… Wherever you are, whatever you are driving or riding, The AiM Sports Solo 2 and Solo 2 DL are exactly what you need and what you've always wanted.
                  Wi-Fi communication with the PC
                  AiM Solo 2 WiFi
                  Wi-Fi connection: easy, fast, without connectors or cables: the best way to configure your Solo 2, to manage the track database, and to download the data to your PC.


                  AiM Sports Solo 2 DL Additional Features
                  The AiM Sports Solo 2 DL is a Solo 2 with an ECU connection. More than 1,000 protocols for 1,000+ ECUs in the database, allows you to easily connect your Solo 2 DL to your Engine Control Unit and get loads of information with just one cable. In case your ECU protocol is not in the database, no problem: an ECU Driver Builder is always available in the Race Studio 3 configuration software, and you will be able to create your protocol by yourself.
                  Coil RPM input
                  The AiM Sports Solo 2 DL now features a digital input allowing the user to log RPM either from square wave signals (8-50 V each signal) or pulse signals (150-450 V ignition coil trigger – primary circuit).

                  iPhone connection
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                  Use your iPhone for a quick and comfortable data analysis, for managing the track database, and even for an On-Line view of the most important parameters of your engine.
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                  • #10
                    For those waiting on the Solo2 DL in the group buy the latest news from AiM is that the Solo 2 DL is expected to ship around the end of this month.

                    Mark
                    Last edited by markn; 03-12-2018, 09:37 PM.
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