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  • Hawk Street Race pads - anyone try them yet?

    Was browsing brake pad options and came across these:

    High Performance Street Race | Hawk Performance

    I may try them out soon. I've been using stoptech street pads (5 track days, a few thousand street miles and still going strong!) but as my laps times are improving I feel it might be time to move on before I start running into fade issues. Considering these vs HP+ vs ferrodo ds2500. I went through a couple sets of ferrodos on a wrx and liked them. I'm also hoping that new = better, as both the DS2500 and HP+ have been around for quite some time now.
    '09 rx8 sport

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    I'm surprised you aren't fading your street pads after 5 track days. On my FR-S, the HPS were only marginally better than OEM, and would fade significantly after a couple hot laps around Buttonwillow. But then again Miatas are pretty light..

    I don't know about these Hawk Street Race pads. It sounds like a hybrid compound, since they mention dust. Hybrids are fine but if you don't track too often, the dust and the constant care needed to keep them bedded in can be a PITA.

    Less than one track day per month? Might be best to have two sets of pads, street and track, and swap between them as needed.

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    • #3
      The car is not driven on the street a whole lot (windy, low traffic roads with no stoplights 1-2x/wk), and my wheels are black so I'm not terribly concerned about noise or dust. I was surprised about not fading them as well, but after riding with a couple other guys turning faster times on street pads (with no fading complaints) I stuck with them. I only do 3-4 track days/year, though each day it's being driven in 2 run groups (my wife and I both drive) so it takes a beating.
      '09 rx8 sport

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      • #4
        +1 on the 2 set of pads. Or you'll eat rotors.
        I'm using the HP+ on the front of my Mustang with stock brakes with no cooling ducts. Only used them once at ACS and was impressed that they didn't fade as bad as I thought they would. Going full out for two laps. Then letting them cool for 1 lap and back at it for 2. On the street they work great. I do PCH, Mulhuland to 101 run a couple times a month. There is some dust after a week of street driving. But not really bad.
        That's not a Typo, I just can't spell no so well.

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        • #5
          I really like the DS2500. I'm not sure how the Street/Race pad compares to a HP+ but the 2500 is a lot better than a HP+.

          Report your findings!

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          • #6
            So I ended up getting these, and found out they are basically a DTC30 with a backing plate and chamfered edges.

            Wife and I tag teamed the car yesterday at Atl Motorsports Park. At one point in the afternoon (other than ~5min drivers changes) the car was on track for close to 1.5 hours straight. Never got a hint of brake fade. Firm pedal feel, excellent bite, good modulation. 2 or 3 trips on public roads before the track day and no noise was heard from the brakes. On the way home from the track day there was some noise which I attribute to massive brake dust. Even with street use these do dust alot, though they do bite nicely at low temps.

            All in all, I think the pads work very well for their intended application.
            '09 rx8 sport

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            • #7
              How wheel friendly is the brake dust? Will the wheels get ruined if the wheels get wet with the dust on them?
              99 Mazda Miata SuperMiata #515 - AKA Sparky SOLD
              '91 Mariner Blue Miata project AKA Napoleon

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              • #8
                Oh hell I hope not! First thing I did when I got back home from the track was give all the wheels/brakes a good rinse. I guess I'll find your answer soon.
                '09 rx8 sport

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                • #9
                  Nothing beats the good ol' scientific method.
                  Ryan Passey
                  Singulär Motorsports | Goodwin Racing

                  #13 1990 Miata
                  "The sport dedicating to the spirits of time attacking motoring" -Emilio

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eyeballs View Post
                    So I ended up getting these, and found out they are basically a DTC30 with a backing plate and chamfered edges.

                    Wife and I tag teamed the car yesterday at Atl Motorsports Park. At one point in the afternoon (other than ~5min drivers changes) the car was on track for close to 1.5 hours straight. Never got a hint of brake fade. Firm pedal feel, excellent bite, good modulation. 2 or 3 trips on public roads before the track day and no noise was heard from the brakes. On the way home from the track day there was some noise which I attribute to massive brake dust. Even with street use these do dust alot, though they do bite nicely at low temps.

                    All in all, I think the pads work very well for their intended application.
                    Interesting. How was teh cold bite on the street?




                    I still like Porterfield R4S pads:

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                    • #11
                      Cold bite is good. Even better than the street pads they replaced (stoptech). As testament, on only my 2nd brake application while bedding them in I accidentally locked 'em up.
                      '09 rx8 sport

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                      • #12
                        Update on these, since I washed my car for the 1st time since they were installed. No damage to the wheel paint at all. I use the armor all wheel protectant spray which may have helped some. My wheels are now temporarily gloss black again.
                        '09 rx8 sport

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                        • #13
                          Final update: After my last track day (road atlanta on 7/31) the front pads are about done. I did a last minute rotor swap beforehand since the rotors were all scored significantly. I'm going to order DS2500 now. In summary, the street/race pads have great track performance and work well on the street, but the kicker is they wear down quick and aren't rotor friendly. I used them for ~11 track hours and about 5 hours street driving.
                          '09 rx8 sport

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