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  • #31
    Originally posted by Silversprint View Post
    The Z4 version ran a faster lap time on the nurburgring than the m2. The supra hardtop is lighter, stiffer, and faster to 60 than the convertible Z4.
    Can't outrun ugly.
    Yer pal,
    Force

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Force McCocken View Post

      Can't outrun ugly.
      Although Civic Type R owners would beg to differ.
      4.6lbs / whp -- 4lbs / bhp

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      • #33
        Naw, the owners I know think it's ugly too.
        Yer pal,
        Force

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        • #34
          It isn't a Toyota. it isn't 50% Toyota. from few of walk around reviews I've seen, it is not even 10% Toyota. nobody has yet to find a Toyota part on the car. Pretty sure there are a few Toyota part number, like oil dip stick, as BMW haven't made in in a decade?

          and this is how the Toyota "chief engineer" lied about all those 10 fake vents....and was immediately called out on the BS.
          https://jalopnik.com/i-just-dont-bel...ine-1831838527


          Last edited by bellwilliam; 01-18-2019, 12:32 PM.
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          • #35
            If there is that much bmw in there I cannot bring myself to buy it. I just put a radiator in 3 series. Their superior German engineering outsmarts itself to the point of failure and accessory failure points we just donít need.

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            • #36
              I am wondering if Toyota made the calculation that in order to sell a bunch of Supras they should avoid building a car that competes on the same square as the Nissan GT-R for example, because that market is small.
              Instead, aim at a lower market which BMW sells a lot of cars into, and the thought was that their best way to compete with BMW on the same square is to... Sell a BMW..
              Moti

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              • #37
                The supra will probably out sell the Z4 three to one. This is similar to the FRS vs BRZ.


                The Z4 is more expensive than the Supra. The supra is a hardtop, lighter, faster with less power, will get better MPG, and will be cheaper to insure. Toyota also has a much larger dealer network.




                Elise
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                • #38
                  Exactly, and despite some of the negative talk, it's more than likely that they have nailed it.
                  Moti

                  Blackbird Fabworx - Quality Performance Fabrication

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                  • #39

                    Some specifics:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=z_7aTQzpIOI

                     

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                    • #40
                      Sandbagging or one off?

                      https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...pra-dyno-test/

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