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  • New FRS/BRZ in 2021

    It seems Toyota likes the partnership model, and a second generation 86/BRZ is reportedly on the way.

    https://www.motortrend.com/news/seco...lly-confirmed/

    Last edited by Loose Caboose; 09-27-2019, 10:34 PM.

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    Update from Car and Driver mentions possible 260 hp.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...brz-confirmed/

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    • #3
      No mention of it getting that power from a turbo, so that's a plus.
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      • #4
        Chief engineer Tetsuya Tada let slip to Australia's Motor recently that he believes the new 86 will be "better than the Supra,"

        Translation: Absolutely no BMW parts.

        Seriously though, rumor of 260 hp actually concerns me. It's not likely that they would keep the weight the same. Meaning it would become a bigger and heavier car. As an owner of a very well-sorted FRS, the relatively light weight is one my favorite features of the current platform.
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        • #5
          Very interesting take. Let's hope not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by emilio700 View Post
            "better than the Supra,"

            Translation: Absolutely no BMW parts.

            LOL! This would hugely improve reliability. Subaru with toyota sure. BMW with Toyota disaster.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ucfbrett View Post
              No mention of it getting that power from a turbo, so that's a plus.
              Why?
              A small turbochraged 4 banger makes a ton of sense.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blackbird View Post

                Why?
                A small turbocharged 4 banger makes a ton of sense.

                The biggest clouds of smoke I've ever seen at a racetrack have come from turbocharged Subarus, almost invariably those with the boost turned up. I admit a personal bias: I'm not a big fan of the boxer four.
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                • #9
                  Have a look at the line ups of so many OEMs, there are turbo 4 cyls everywhere.. heck, there are turbo sixers where V8s used to be and the cars / trucks are better.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ucfbrett View Post


                    The biggest clouds of smoke I've ever seen at a racetrack have come from turbocharged Subarus, almost invariably those with the boost turned up. I admit a personal bias: I'm not a big fan of the boxer four.
                    You kind of said it: . . . "almost invariably those with the boost turned up".

                    Therein lies the gremlin. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blackbird View Post
                      Have a look at the line ups of so many OEMs, there are turbo 4 cyls everywhere.. heck, there are turbo sixers where V8s used to be and the cars / trucks are better.
                      I have no problem with turbocharged inline fours, V6s and V8s, or V10s of V12s or flat sixes. I'm just not a fan of boosted boxer fours, or boosted rotaries, for reasons you understand well.
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